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Old 02-Jul-09, 07:11 AM
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Well she is on the lawn merrily grazing. You would never know that there is anything wrong. She had a day off yesterday, today I shall try lunging her over trotting poles.

Maybe it's been like it for ages and she got gassy for some reason which just highlighted it was there? I don't know. But that's my gut feeling.

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Maybe it's been like it for ages and she got gassy for some reason which just highlighted it was there? I don't know. But that's my gut feeling.
Hopefully thats the case and she'll be back to normal again - and if you can get the hormonal issues sorted maybe she'll be easier too.

Sometimes I wonder why we keep horses !!!!!

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So glad that it's not totally doom and gloom, Di.

You seem to have a healing way with horses if Joe and Fleur are anything to go by.


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Great news. So pleased for you. Hope she continues to do well.
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thats great! is she still being turned?
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The decision has been made to go for standing surgery next week, unless the brown stuff hits the fan in the meantime.

We have done trotting poles today, and lunging very tight and fast, then spinning the bum out. Tomorrow a hill again.

At least she is rolling in the sand on her own.

If we clear it this time before the deadline, then when or if it happens again, she will have the surgery straight away.
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Fingers crossed for you, Di.

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Good luck Di - hope you dont need the op as its going to be expensive and the aftercare is a real problem - no horse likes months of box rest...

Can I ask how it all started - was it just a normal colic and when you talk about 'the lump' where is it and how do they know which organs are involved??? thought it might be useful if we knew - not that its a common condition, I guess, as I've never heard of it before - is she constantly uncomfortable or does it come and go?

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Dolly had exhibited some behaviour problems, i.e. not throwing herself against the partition wall in the horsebox when place in a horsebox with a partition, thus being over a wheel (this has more vibration, which obviously hurt her jiggling innards), at the same time she had become nappy - dangerously.

This all started from where I can pinpoint now, we were at an event and it was at the coast, she got down to roll and rolled down a ridge. She played up slightly in the horsebox coming home, and we thought then that it was very strange because she never normally plays up.

However, I had noted also a change in her shape a few days before, slightly gassy look to her tummy. She had not stood well for the farrier on the Saturday.

On the morning in question, Charlie went out to get her in to go for a ride, Dolly had had a sheet on because of the storms. She was found sweating on her head and neck, but NOT under her rug, she was kicking up at her tummy and rolling. I had seen her roll a couple of times around 10.30 the night before but thought it was the flies causing it. She also said she had green sludge coming from her vulva.

Upon bringing her, I could see her tummy looked like a 7 month pregnant mare, but just one side (her left), I took her temperature, and it was well below normal (in shock), heart rate very low, (normal for this condition until something goes pop). In fact she had been out with Bert during the winter so we checked for bagging up.

But when I REALLY looked at the shape of her loin area there was a rugby ball shaped bulge. It was soft to touch and was like playdoe being squeezed through fingers.

I had a very experienced friend come her yesterday, and I had to point it out to her, because at the moment she has had drugs to reduce the size of the spleen. Unfortunately these are now coming out of her system and it is inflating again. When both sides were compared it is easily seen, but if you look at one side then the other without knowing, you could miss it, but think, the horse is a funny shape.

If you were to look along her left side from her shoulder, you can clearly see a bulge. If the horse were fat, I don't know how you would pick it up.

The problem is is usually happens to horses with rounder rib cages, and thus it is easier to shake back off. This is stuck and stuck fast.

The vet has a good book that shows a dissection in drawing of a NE, if I find one on the internet I will post it. I think you you would hard pressed to see it in a photo.
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http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/...74b2e878c9.jpg

You may have to enlarge this, but look for the purple bit, that's the spleen.

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/...0cadec5ccc.jpg

This is a very clear picture of what has happened, cute too!

http://www.liv.ac.uk/vets_med_images...acementweb.jpg

The pink section above the grey, should be below the grey - which is the spleen.

http://www.liv.ac.uk/vets_med_images...Colons_web.jpg


It is more common in geldings, it is more common in cobs or horses with wider rib cages. We are extremely unlucky.
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